Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:00:14 - deeznnutz: === Starting Meeting | 9 Sept 2024 @ 6PM EST=== Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:00:18 - georgezgeorgez: Hello hello Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:00:21 - deeznnutz: hello!! Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:00:44 - deeznnutz: I'm trying the meeting start to make it easier to make the meeting minutes Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:01:53 - georgezgeorgez: It really needs a way to export by timeframe Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:02:04 - georgezgeorgez: But anyways Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:02:27 - deeznnutz: agree. I send a dm to coinselor . Should we start? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:02:36 - georgezgeorgez: Yes let's start Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:02:46 - georgezgeorgez: So I think we had a pretty productive last 2 weeks Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:02:54 - georgezgeorgez: Or at least, we have steady progress Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:03:03 - deeznnutz: ya, agree. I've got a little summary Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:03:06 - deeznnutz: Since our last meeting we've made good progress. I'll summarize the recent updates:

• Moved ARM support to a future release
• Added custom znnd Dashboard for integration with the Infinity Plugin. It's in the /Dashboard folder
• Added --grafana flag to install grafana, prometheus, node exporter and the standard node exporter dashboard
• Added noninteractive support for the --deploy flag
• Added DRAFT README.md
• Noninteractive support for --grafana is not working.

Did I miss anything? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:03:24 - georgezgeorgez: coinselor Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:03:34 - georgezgeorgez: his chatgpt made docs? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:03:42 - georgezgeorgez: if it's actually useful Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:03:54 - georgezgeorgez: not bad as a starting point at the very least Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:03:59 - deeznnutz: lol. ya, I asked it to make me a readme.md and it was pretty good. So I added it as a draft Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:04:52 - coinselor: I'm here ^^ Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:05:02 - georgezgeorgez: I want to zoom out and go back to the three high level things

1. make it easy to deploy
2. help people monitor their system
3. help people support (diagnostics) Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:05:11 - georgezgeorgez: we're hitting a baseline maturity for 1 and 2 Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:05:33 - georgezgeorgez: I want to start inviting people to beta test out the scripts/stack Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:05:51 - georgezgeorgez: and then next meeting, if we can have a polished version, that would be great Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:06:00 - georgezgeorgez: We should start thinking about 3 Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:06:07 - deeznnutz: quickly. Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:06:09 - deeznnutz: Potential next steps before we request community testing:

• Setup go.zenon.sh for installation - Something like curl -s https://go.zenon.sh/go-zenon.sh | bash
• Improve / finish the "docs" and/or README.md
• Fix the noninteractive support for --grafana

Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:06:19 - deeznnutz: what do you think about these before asking for testing? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:07:16 - georgezgeorgez: I think the first bullet point isn't too critical for testing curling a github raw asset is fine for now For general release, yeah, A good url would be nice Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:07:31 - georgezgeorgez: for 2, we need enough docs but doesn't have to be perfect Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:07:39 - coinselor: help people support (diagnostics) -> this is kinda vague can you be more specific?

Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:08:12 - georgezgeorgez: Sure, so right now HC1, and in particular deeznnutz does a lot of 1-1 sessions Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:08:26 - georgezgeorgez: with community members to help get their infra up and keep it running Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:08:54 - georgezgeorgez: and there's usually some back and forth in terms of asking questions Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:09:06 - georgezgeorgez: a lot of that can be streamlined Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:09:21 - georgezgeorgez: if for example, there was a tool that could fetch info about the node and zip it up Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:09:49 - georgezgeorgez: so they can send it over to whoever is helping or in a bug report Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:09:54 - georgezgeorgez: especially again, once we get into testnets Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:09:59 - georgezgeorgez: 0x linked a tool earlier Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:09:59 - georgezgeorgez: sos Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:10:36 - deeznnutz: each session has the same questions over and over and it takes like 15 minutes to get the info. Automating that would be so helpful Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:11:04 - deeznnutz: simple things like, is go-zenon running Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:11:06 - deeznnutz: lol Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:11:18 - deeznnutz: do you have enough hard drive space Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:11:24 - deeznnutz: is the swap file set Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:12:06 - deeznnutz: back to the public testing, getting the noninteractive install working is acutally important, b/ everyone asks what to do at those screens Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:12:18 - georgezgeorgez: i think we should do some more research into the tool and see if there are any alternatives Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:13:09 - georgezgeorgez: 0x do you have the link to that sos tool? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:13:26 - georgezgeorgez: i think it had a plugin architecture, and we could possibly write our own plugin Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:13:27 - deeznnutz: I have time this week to finish up the noninteractive fixes and finish the readme.md From there I think we can ask for testers. Agree? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:13:36 - coinselor: https://github.com/sosreport/sos Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:13:38 - coinselor: this? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:13:55 - deeznnutz: ya that one Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:14:15 - deeznnutz: it has a nice plugin system too. we can write one for znnd. Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:14:25 - coinselor: "everyone asks what to do at those screens" - do you mean the znncontroller interactive screen? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:14:33 - deeznnutz: I would like to get the config.json without the producer password. Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:14:38 - georgezgeorgez: I think non critical for the general release but we've talked about it here is historical timeseries for sync status Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:14:50 - georgezgeorgez: I think that will be our first entry into performance testing Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:15:00 - deeznnutz: <@coinselor:zenon.chat ""everyone asks what to do at tho..."> no, when you install an app in linux it asks if you want to restart a service. Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:15:12 - georgezgeorgez: It would be good to compare the sync charts of nodes with and without vilkris's updates Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:15:13 - deeznnutz: that purple screen. Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:15:45 - coinselor: lol ya, that purple screen i always press enter I don't even know what I'm looking at. Looks like some bios from 1980 Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:16:14 - deeznnutz: exactly. I want to auto select enter for those. Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:16:20 - coinselor: but can that be skipped? seems like some low level VM stuff Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:16:33 - deeznnutz: yes I can be auto selected Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:16:48 - deeznnutz: you tell it to accept all defaults and make the installation noninteractive. Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:17:48 - georgezgeorgez: noninteractive will be more important for multinode setups Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:18:03 - georgezgeorgez: i'm guessing most people will still be ssh'ing to their box to install? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:18:16 - deeznnutz: ya I think so Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:18:36 - deeznnutz: I think we can target testing this week Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:19:06 - deeznnutz: improve readme.md and noninteractive and we can test I think Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:19:09 - georgezgeorgez: do we want to set a closer deadline to get some of these basics done? then send out a call for beta testers? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:19:30 - deeznnutz: ya I'd like to start testing by Friday this week Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:21:04 - coinselor: My readme is chatgpt'd but I edited/proofread. I don't know what else could be added other than more content as we add more functionality Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:21:19 - coinselor: it's on my forked repo tho Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:21:31 - deeznnutz: maybe add a tl;dr getting started? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:21:36 - georgezgeorgez: make an mr Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:22:22 - coinselor: ok, I will maybe 0x can edit add stuff from his chatgpt readme XD Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:24:20 - deeznnutz: Regarding next steps and roadmap, I typed up a few things. Maybe we should prioritize? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:24:23 - deeznnutz: Roadmap

• ARM support
• Automate the installation and setup of the znnd Dashboard
• Troubleshooting script to send logs to devs
• Troubleshoot ports and accessibility (are my ports open)
• Deploy testnet
• Add --uninstall flag
• Add --backup flag (I have a version of this script already)

Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:25:27 - deeznnutz: what is a higher priority? Automate the installation of the znnddash or troubleshooting "stuff" Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:25:57 - georgezgeorgez: I think we should prioritize a single happy path that is useful to most people first Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:26:03 - coinselor: I can get a few aliens to commit to help us test it Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:26:25 - georgezgeorgez: What would enable people to actually start using the script and running their nodes with it? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:26:43 - georgezgeorgez: The priority should be first to get some real users And then after that, they can help us prioritize Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:26:45 - deeznnutz: I like the znnd dash. It's actually pretty useful Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:27:14 - deeznnutz: so IMO the cool dash will be more useful to users than troubleshooting Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:27:48 - georgezgeorgez: yeah i think we can get 1 and 2 to a good spot before focusing on 3 Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:27:52 - sugoi joined the room Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:27:56 - georgezgeorgez: usable spot Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:28:07 - sugoi: hi guys Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:28:15 - georgezgeorgez: hi welcome to the operations sig Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:29:25 - georgezgeorgez: not sure how much you have been following, but we've been working on a znnd installation script and a dashboard to help people understand their node Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:29:51 - deeznnutz: does anyone have time to work on the auto deploy of the znnd dash? You can use some code already written in the script to deploy the dash w/ the api Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:29:57 - coinselor: <@georgezgeorgez:hc1.chat "What would enable people to actu..."> I would personally start using it because it just automates a lot of the stuff. Grafana dashboard and other stuff will also come handy if someone asks for system information.

Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:30:18 - sugoi: <@georgezgeorgez:hc1.chat "not sure how much you have been ..."> Trying to read up now. Thanks for the tl;dr! Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:30:39 - deeznnutz: so the dash requires:

• install the infinity plugin
• set the default datasource (127.0.0.1)
• import the dashboard w/ the api Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:30:49 - georgezgeorgez: Yes, we will likely be our own first users haha Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:31:40 - georgezgeorgez: <@deeznnutz:zenon.chat "so the dash requires:"> let's target this for friday? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:31:41 - deeznnutz: it took me a while to figure out the import dash api. it had a bunch of size limits Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:32:19 - deeznnutz: <@georgezgeorgez:hc1.chat "let's target this for friday?"> I can get the readme and noninteractive done by this friday. Not sure about the znnd dash Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:32:28 - georgezgeorgez: I can work on it Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:32:46 - deeznnutz: OK if you have time, then I'm sure this friday is possible. Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:33:35 - deeznnutz: Just reuse this: https://github.com/go-zenon/go/blob/82ba64fbee715ad468c878a06cd16ac6258ccad1/grafana.sh#L119 Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:34:01 - georgezgeorgez: yup 0x, we can do it after this meeting and throughout the week but let's get more github issues created for all this Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:34:11 - deeznnutz: that node exporter dash was very large and I kept getting file size errors Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:34:15 - georgezgeorgez: I see you've created a couple already Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:34:24 - coinselor: yeah +1 to issues, break it down into tasks we can pick up Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:34:38 - coinselor: for instance I have no idea what this entails:

Troubleshooting script to send logs to devs Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:34:40 - deeznnutz: yep. Makes sense Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:35:25 - georgezgeorgez: Cool, so we have short term goals for this week And also some other things on hold to revisit once we get it out for beta testing Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:35:32 - georgezgeorgez: Anything else we want to go over? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:35:37 - georgezgeorgez: Or just ideas? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:35:58 - deeznnutz: Awesome. I can also work on adding / cleaning up the issues this week. Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:36:01 - deeznnutz: That all I had! Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:36:26 - georgezgeorgez: Let's get another meeting on the cal Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:36:32 - deeznnutz: I've gotten feedback from other devs watching this group and think we are making good progress on working together Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:36:50 - deeznnutz: So I'm happing we are making these small steps together Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:37:01 - coinselor: just wishful thinking but would be badass to add --public, --sentry ,--pillar Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:37:01 - georgezgeorgez: I think even though it's all over chat Having regular times for the meetings helps moves things along Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:37:09 - deeznnutz: 23 Sept @ 6PM EST? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:37:21 - georgezgeorgez: Message deleted Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:37:33 - georgezgeorgez: <@coinselor:zenon.chat "just wishful thinking but would ..."> likely on our path Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:38:29 - georgezgeorgez: <@deeznnutz:zenon.chat "I've gotten feedback from other ..."> my goal with this sig so far has been to bootstrap some sort of steady collaborative effort Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:39:05 - coinselor: particularly for the upcoming sporks, I know there's a way to like upgrade the pillar with no downtime. I'm no doing that unless this script can handle it 😂 no worth the effort I rather miss the momentums lol Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:39:21 - georgezgeorgez: once we get some credibility need to start figuring out incentives then the pace can pick up and really be driven by the community/userbase Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:39:32 - georgezgeorgez: <@coinselor:zenon.chat "particularly for the upcoming sp..."> bro make an issue Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:39:47 - georgezgeorgez: we need to track this stuff even if it will be a bit before we get to it Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:40:02 - georgezgeorgez: it helps too, because other people might chime in and say it's important for them too Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:40:03 - deeznnutz: ya we have a feature request tag in there Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:40:12 - georgezgeorgez: And that will help us determine our priority Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:40:35 - deeznnutz: awesome. is everyone OK with 23 Sept @ 6PM EST? Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:40:39 - georgezgeorgez: but again I'm pushing the saying Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:40:41 - georgezgeorgez: Incentivization is Prioritization Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:41:05 - georgezgeorgez: My idea is that SIGs define the frontier of development What is the next possible thing we can do Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:41:15 - georgezgeorgez: And the community helps prioritize it by setting incentives Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:41:29 - deeznnutz: makes perfect sense! Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:41:51 - coinselor: ok next step is to populate github then Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:41:53 - coinselor: take it from there Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:42:13 - deeznnutz: Cool. thanks everyone. I'm around all week. Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:42:22 - georgezgeorgez: Thank you everyone, good meeting Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:42:29 - coinselor: gn!! Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 23:42:33 - deeznnutz: gn